These are the actual emails sent amongst the Hot Bad Goddesses whilst considering Mr. Eric
Stoltz. They have not been edited except to remove extraneous personal comments that had no
bearing on discussion at hand. They are at times pointed, at times desperate, and at times
incoherent or tangential. But that's just the way We are. Get used to it.
This particular debate happened on a day when Moonstone's email was acting up - she got
some messages immediately, but others came in batches. The timeline has been reconstructed
as thoroughly as possible.
Hour 1 - The debate begins as Princess is writing the News Briefs. |
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Is Eric Stoltz on one of our lists? |
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I wanted him for HBG, but I think we were hung up on whether or not he'd been
bad enough in a hot enough role. Someone said he was too skeevy in pulp fiction, which I
haven't seen in a really long time. And that he wasn't really bad in killing zoe.
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Okay. It's his birthday, which is why I asked. |
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I still think he should be on the list, tho. |
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He was an adulterer in The Passion of Ayn Rand. Does sleeping with an amazingly
unattractive author count? |
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Meh. I think a professional bank robber should count, but I think someone
objected because he didn't want to kill the girl. But that'll just lower his badness score.
Let's bring Dandelion in on this. |
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Dandelion - We're debating Eric Stoltz - I seem to recall we've had this convo before - I wanted him on
Hot, but someone objected, I think because he wasn't bad enough when he was hot or something.
I still think he should be on the list, probably for Killing Zoe (he's not as sweaty as he
is in Pulp Fiction). |
Our Goddesses break for lunch and cocktails, among other peskier things. |
Hour 7 Even in the midst of the Debate over Eric Stoltz, Our Goddesses get somewhat
distracted. |
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I saw Killing Zoe, but I can't remember exactly which character he was -- was he
a ruthless bank robber, or was he the guy kinda caught in the middle?? Bad sieve-like brain...
I think he's pretty cute, but he'd probably only get a 2 or a 3 from me on the hotness scale.
I won't object if the role is truly bad... |
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I haven't seen Killing Zoe. Maybe we should put him on the Wanna Be list? |
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He was the American guy hired to come over and do the bank robbery. Totally not
caught in the middle. He hires a prostitute the night before, but then it turns out she
works days in the bank and he doesn't want to kill her.
I'd go 2.5-3 on the hotness, probably 3 on the badness. He just wasn't completely evil.
(Corrupt tho - drugs all over the place. And keep in mind the badness from Pulp Fiction...
where he loses points only because he got woken up in the middle of the night. How many of
our bad guys look their best then? Dude. We should totally do a study to find that out. I
volunteer to wake up Russell Crowe, Joaquin Phoenix, and Pierce Brosnan.) |
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Well Elijah Wood always looks like he has bed head, so I imagine he's just as cute.
I don't think Eric Stoltz was cute At All in Pulp Fiction. |
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Ok, so looks like you can cross Elijah off your list of guys to wake up. One down... :)
Like I said, I've got to go to the tape on pulp fiction. |
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Of course, that could be the result of hours of hair preparation. Clearly, more research
is needed. |
Hour 9 Dandelion gets us back on track, and proposes a resolution. |
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He was totally likable. He's a good guy at heart. Now
I remember. Not a bad guy at all, really. If he
reveled in his evilosity he'd have shot Zoe, EH? I bet
Evil Sean Bean in Clarissa woulda shot her, EH?
> And keep in mind the badness from Pulp Fiction...
Naaa... just a strung out drug dealer; not a really
evil guy, not really a bad guy (EVERYONE is bad in
that movie, technically). I'm still on the fence over
our boy Eric. I say Wannabe him... :^D |
Hour 24 Princess dives off track again. |
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Well, who wouldn't Evil Sean Bean have shot, really? |
Hour 26 Dandelion is hit by a Spark of Inspiration (She's fine, not hurt at all, actually)
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Maybe what we need is a "Most Evilest" rotation --
sort of a weekly example of an extremely bad act by
one of our featured bad guys... It can rotate like the
quote does... Yay, more work! Hee hee.. |
Hour 27 And We come back to "what is evil, really?" |
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Evil Sean Bean loved Clarissa, yet still had two prostitutes hold her down to rape her.
That's really evil. |
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My point exactly. True bad guys go ahead and shoot people they might be a tad fond of... |
Hour 28 Moonstone makes a last desperate plea, which is basically ignored |
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Degrees of evil, children! Degrees of evil! |
So, what happens now? Someone writes up a little blurb for the Wannabe page, and it is
posted shortly thereafter. Of course any of our Wannabes can be promoted to full Hot Bad Guy
status. In that case, whoever has argued for him usually gets to write his homage. In this
case, if Eric Stoltz ever gets promoted, Moonstone will likely get to write his homage.